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 Post subject: Bit of advice targa mustard mk1
PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:39 am 
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Hi I'm after a bit of advice.this is my early targa mustard mk1 it's all original as it came from the factory. I was given this bike by my step dad who bought it brand new in 1971 he even had the original owners booklet in mint condition. He assured me he never changed anything on it not even the tyres.
I'm thinking what to do with it as i needs some tlc as it's been sat in his barn for the last 24 years. The bikes complete apart from the rear sissy bar clamps and the rear brake cable.
I believe this colour to be quiet rare on the choppers.
1st question is the frame has broke on both sides at top rear. I believe this is quite common on mk1's but the frame is still straight. Is there anyway of welding it with damaging the paint as I would like to keep it original and just get some of the chrome re done.
2nd question is where the decals painted on on the early bikes as it feels like they are ?
Any advice would be great.
Couple of pics for you as I got it :)
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 Post subject: Re: Bit of advice targa mustard mk1
PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:35 am 
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Just looked on the hub and it's dated November 1970 which ties in with his dates as he got it for Xmas :)


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 Post subject: Re: Bit of advice targa mustard mk1
PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:38 pm 
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sissy clamps pop up on ebay and you can get stainless nearly correct bolts or orginals
brake cables also
white are easy to find
black not so easy
its worth while buying old white ribbed cheep rubbish to get ferrules
i have a white pair sprayed with Wikes drain pipe paint black..they seem to be fine :) i also did the arm rests and bits of dash in my car with it....doesn't come off

you will need to have the frame welded and the welds dressed, this will burn the paint so a sympathetic touch in will be necessary, all paint and corrosion will need to be cleaned off the surfaces to be welded, ideally the surface would be acid treated to kill the rust.
suggest MIG welding is going to be cheapest but also messy, the welds will be rougher and need more work with a hammer file and emery cloth or rotary tool and small flap wheel than a TIG weld which makes a neater weld (tig welding is the kind seen on childrens park things like slides and roundabouts, roll cages in cars etc)

but TIG welding is more specialist and costs more.

but don't let that put you off. its still a lunchtime job any competant engineering shop or auto welder can do, so shouldn't cost that much

either way it will damage the paint for an inch or so either way

paint is best matched by a paint supplier who can analyse an area, make a match and provide a spray can full or a tin and thinners, find one that still does cellulose and enammels. you don't necessarily want a modern 2 pack or water base paint, althogh i'm no expert in modern paints

ideally you'd purchase some primer from them as well and test both on the underside of the bottom bracket to see if they react with current paint

the top coat paint needs to be feathered in by providing a raised edge to the masking
build many thin coats

wet-n-dry sand then polish.

sand right through in places if you want to maintain a semblance of patina.

think the decals are very dry brittle stickers, mine have chipped off in places

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 Post subject: Re: Bit of advice targa mustard mk1
PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:56 pm 
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Nice bike, don't restore it. I'm sure somebody on here has done the repair you need?
Don't think its Targa mustard, looks more like yellow.


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 Post subject: Re: Bit of advice targa mustard mk1
PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:54 pm 
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It does look yellow in them pics. But it's defo a mustard colour in the flesh. A friend of mine is going to tig weld it back up and I'm just going to touch it up for now and have it in my living room for now I think. Maybe just get some of the chrome redone but use the original parts.


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 Post subject: Re: Bit of advice targa mustard mk1
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:19 am 
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think i got to agree with you ian that is not targa but yellow and did not targa's come with a hbr as standard??? nice bike either way but take a look at trev's bike that is targa...
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 Post subject: Re: Bit of advice targa mustard mk1
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:34 am 
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Colour spotting tip;
Targa mustard doesn't look the same shade as Colemans more like baby poo!
Long time since my kids were babies but you don't forget that :shock:
No offence to targa owners I actually quite like them.

If JC says they usually came with HBR's thats good enough for me there is only one man qualified to contradict him. Catfood?


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 Post subject: Re: Bit of advice targa mustard mk1
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:38 am 
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Defo golden yellow, targa did only come with the hbr! :)

Still a nice bike mate!

Here's a pic of a targa mustard

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 Post subject: Re: Bit of advice targa mustard mk1
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:51 am 
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Targa or not a very nice looking original bike, far to nice to restore. I think I would even leave the chrome alone. It,s definately a Golden Yellow. The Targa,s not only nearly always came with an HBR, but had Mk2 handle bar grips and Mk2 short reflector pedals. Isn,t 11/70 a bit to early for a Targa, I thought they were 71/72?

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 Post subject: Re: Bit of advice targa mustard mk1
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:21 am 
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Thanks guys that targa does look darker than mine :) least I know what colour it is now. Yeah it's a really clean bike think I'm going to repair the frame and touch it up :).


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 Post subject: Re: Bit of advice targa mustard mk1
PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:57 pm 
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That's the way to go mate! Lol yes thought you'd agree

Very nice bike! Survivors are always great to keep


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 Post subject: Re: Bit of advice targa mustard mk1
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:36 pm 
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I love that targa bike!

Great looking project


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 Post subject: Re: Bit of advice targa mustard mk1
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Pedals are wrong as well they look like early square soap bars.


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